Posts tagged lesbians
Posts tagged lesbians
Yes, we’ve got two dozen books to read, and just as many half finished posts, but that doesn’t mean we know when to stop! Especially when our lesbian book list post has nearly 5000 notes.
4600 looks like 5000 when you’re as excited about that as we are.
So what really random niche, identity, job, culture or other topic do you want to see a book list on?
If we can find books, you get a book list! If we can’t, then I guess you win. And we’ll order people to write books on that topic for you.
We have delusions of grandeur.
Oh, and if you already know of ALL THE BOOKS in a certain topic, or want to write about the lack of them, or want to review your favourites, we are always happy to accept guest posts. So very happy.
It makes our random update schedule look more respectable. We do have standards and will tidy your posts up spelling wise and so on, but we’re trying to be the ULTIMATE RESOURCE, which means letting other people share sometimes.
We’ve got a whole essay on the topic: Pet Peeves and Problems in Lesbian Fiction, and these are the main points.
- Reused Plots
- Poor Writing/Editing
- Terrible Characters
- Finding It
- Sex Scenes
- Limited Variety
What do you hate about lesbian fiction right now? What turns you off…
"Shyness of authors" heeee that doesn’t seem to be my problem. ;-)
What you said about it being associated with porn really resonated with me, because the word ‘lesbian’ has such a pornographic connotation outside of feminist/queer spaces that “lesbian” + “fantasy” doesn’t mean “fantasy plus lesbians”—for many people, and for Google, adding the word ‘lesbian’ to ‘fantasy’ doesn’t mean ‘a gay woman with a dragon and magic potions’ — it means ‘sexual fantasies involving one more more lesbians’.
This doesn’t happen for anything else. You can say you write fantasy about this, that, or the other, but suddenly when you bring lesbians into it, it’s that type of fantasy (i.e. sexual daydreams), not the type where Gandalf takes Luna Lovegood on a magical quest for Susan Pevensie’s missing quiver of arrows. So I was never able to market my book with the simple words ‘lesbian fantasy’.
Screw that. Lesbians like dragons, too.
I was actually thinking about that when I was looking at your book (shout out: The Second Mango, a YA lesbian fantasy novel with dragons).
I’ve gotten to the point where I have trained my head canon to “lesbian fantasy” = dragons and sparkly things and demons and soul splitting power from the seven hells, and “lesbian fantasies” = fantasies that are possibly sexual and either involve lesbians, or are the fantasies of lesbians. I assume significant overlap.
I am defiantly promoting the former definition in book reviews. I love fantasy. I love fiction with lesbians. It’s lesbian fantasy fiction, dammit.
The other problem is that ‘fantasy’ covers a lot of subgenres. The paranormal mostly-romance stuff has started really taking off (shapeshifters and vampires and urban fantasy, oh my), the fairy tales are also pretty popular, but epic fantasy, real sword and sorcery stuff, is still very rare.
It’s really annoying that it’s so hard to think of any fiction to recommend to a friend who’s mostly only into epic-ish fantasy of the GRRM and Stephen King and Terry Pratchett variety. They are also into lesbians, but tend to scorn most lesfic I try and give them. IT SHOULD NOT BE THIS HARD.
I mean, offhand, there’s Gossamer Axe, and the Elemental Logic series and some awesome short stories (e.g. by Catherine Lundoff, or the Bending the Landscape anthology), and some vaguely-lesbian in a sneaky, we’re just going to wait for you to realise way, that got snuck into some of the older ‘true’ fantasy novels, like Lythande and The Moonbane Mage, and more recent stuff like The Warrior’s Path, Privilege of the Sword and Sword of the Guardian that isn’t quite ‘traditional’ fantasy, but smells close enough for my starved state. And I know of a few others I haven’t yet read, include a couple of series.
But I’ve been actively reviewing and hunting down lesbian fantasy fiction for two years now, and that pathetic paragraph is all I’ve managed to get my hands on. I can name quite a few more fantasy novels that just… aren’t really lesbian fiction, like Paksennarion, and most of Tamora Pierce’s stuff (though I owe some of the more recent books a read). But that’s just not the same.
… Ha. I truly did not intend to start ranting. Enjoy?
(P.S. My mind did promptly turn “Gandalf takes Luna Lovegood on a magical quest for Susan Pevensie’s missing quiver of arrows” into a dirty metaphor. I’m sure it was indeed magical).
About A Girl by Joanne Horniman
How ‘bout a girl who’s got a brain
Who always speaks her mind?
I ship it
Lovely. But aren’t you glad we have REAL lesbian fiction and stuff now? I sure am.
A quick round up of our posts from July and August this year. There’s one more week left in August, but I feel like posting now.
Individual Book Reviews
As for lists of actual bisexual books may I suggest people start with relatively easy stuff such as the Finalists in the “Bisexual” category(s) in the Lambda Literary Awards (since 2006 only, they didn’t let us in before that):
Book lists & articles from various Bisexual sites:
We also tag any bisexual books when we review them.
[image description: an instagram photo of Pretend You Love Me by Julie Anne Peters, featuring two people lying on the grass, one with their head on the other’s legs. Neither of their faces are visible.]
What if the one you love can’t love you back?
For anyone who has ever wanted to be more than just friends.
Pretend You Love Me by Julie Anne Peters
“She wasn’t mine, Not now. Not yet. But someday. Some way. I’d make her love me, the way I loved her.”
Just finished reading this book. Learned a lot of lesson in here.. A must read book.. 👍👌👏📖
Ah yes, this book! It’s funny sort of book, at least in the context of most YA coming out stories, with most of the coming out being the main character getting over her own internalised homophobia. And I am really pleased with the ending. Anyway, we’ve got a full review here.
Including Australia, Canada, England, Germany, Ireland, Italy, the Middle East, New Zealand, and 25 US states.
At some point we’ll have to do an adult booklist as well.
…some day when we have nothing to do. Make that some week :D